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''Apps Menu Structure Proposal''. I'd like to make apps menu more fine-grained by introducing submenus
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'''Apps Menu Structure Proposal'''. I'd like to make apps menu more fine-grained by introducing submenus
  
 
==Internet==
 
==Internet==
===Web===
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===Browsing===
 
*Konqueror
 
*Konqueror
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*Firefox
 +
*Opera
 
*Akregator
 
*Akregator
 +
 
===File download and sharing===
 
===File download and sharing===
 
*aMule
 
*aMule
 
*KTorrent
 
*KTorrent
 
*KGet
 
*KGet
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*KFtpGrabber
 
===Communication===
 
===Communication===
 
*KMail
 
*KMail
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*Konversation
 
*Konversation
 
*Kontact
 
*Kontact
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*KAddressBook
 
*Knode
 
*Knode
 
===Connectivity===
 
===Connectivity===
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*KRDC
 
*KRDC
 
*KRFB
 
*KRFB
 +
*networkmanager
 
*<monitoring apps?>
 
*<monitoring apps?>
 +
 
==Multimedia==
 
==Multimedia==
===Play and Manage===
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===Playing and Management===
 
*amarok
 
*amarok
*k3b
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*<videoplayers>
 
*<tag editors>
 
*<tag editors>
*<videoplayers>
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===Creation and editing===
===Create and edit===
 
 
*Kino
 
*Kino
 +
*cinelerra
 +
*LiVES
 +
*Open Movie Editor
 +
*kdenlive
 
*Audacity
 
*Audacity
 +
*Wink screencasting
 +
 
==Graphics==
 
==Graphics==
===View and Manage===
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===Viewing and Management===
 
*Okular
 
*Okular
 
*Gwenview
 
*Gwenview
 
*Digikam
 
*Digikam
===Create and edit===
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===Creation and editing===
 
*Krita
 
*Krita
 
*Kolourpaint
 
*Kolourpaint
 
*Gimp
 
*Gimp
 +
*Blender
 +
*Inkscape
 +
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===Desktop publishing===
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*scribus
 +
*kile
 +
*lyx
 
==Education==
 
==Education==
 
*Blinken
 
*Blinken
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*Kalzium
 
*Kalzium
 
*KTurtle
 
*KTurtle
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*Step
 
==Office==
 
==Office==
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*k3b
 
*Okular
 
*Okular
 
*Kwrite
 
*Kwrite
===Groupware===
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===Time management and Work Organization===
*kontact
 
 
*KOrganizer
 
*KOrganizer
 
*KTimeTracker (remove from menu -- present as plasmoid)
 
*KTimeTracker (remove from menu -- present as plasmoid)
 
*Kalarm (remove from menu -- present as plasmoid?)
 
*Kalarm (remove from menu -- present as plasmoid?)
*KAddressBook
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*KNotes
 +
*kontact
 
*<Syncing apps>
 
*<Syncing apps>
*<other kdepim apps>
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===Accounting===
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*?
 
===OpenOffice.org===
 
===OpenOffice.org===
 
*<openoffice apps>
 
*<openoffice apps>
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*scribus
 
*scribus
 
*kile
 
*kile
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*lyx
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===Translation===
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* [http://userbase.kde.org/Lokalize Lokalize]
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*OmegaT
 +
*<dictionaries>
 +
 
==System Tools==
 
==System Tools==
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*dolphin
 
*Konsole
 
*Konsole
 +
*Strigi search
 +
*k3b
 +
*<Accessibility apps>
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===Monitor===
 
*KSysGuard
 
*KSysGuard
 
*KSystemLog
 
*KSystemLog
*Strigi search
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===Disc tools===
*KSnapShot
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*gparted
 +
*filelight
 
*<backup app>
 
*<backup app>
*<Accessibility apps>
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===Security===
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*kwallet
 +
*klamav
 +
 
 
==Configuration==
 
==Configuration==
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*systemsettings
 +
*yast
 
*<...>
 
*<...>
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==Engineering==
 
==Engineering==
 
*kompare
 
*kompare
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*Quanta
 
*Quanta
 
===Translation===
 
===Translation===
*Lokalize
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* [http://userbase.kde.org/Lokalize Lokalize]
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*OmegaT
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===CAD===
 
===CAD===
 
===Math===
 
===Math===
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'''Explanation'''
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*if several apps fulfill the same function (i.e. konqueror, opera, firefox), then their title should be in form of %function% - %appname%: "Web-browser - Konqueror", and they should be listed consequently
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*We need special entries in .desktop files determining the priority (Menu-Priority, Menu-Priority-KDE, Menu-Priority-Gnome).
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**Because the order is important
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**apps with Menu-Priotity above 100 constant could be visually separated by the line (they are the main apps in the category)
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**apps with Menu-Priotity below 10 may be hidden at all (i.e. they are rarely used by an average user)
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**If category has only 1 item, the item should be displayed instead of category
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**Statistics is needed for this (simple voting?)
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*'Utilities' category isn't needed at all. For example, 'root terminal' should be in System.
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*Plasmoids: a lot of small apps need to be turned into plasmoids.
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**charselect should be callable from anywhere but K-Menu
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**kcalc -- the same
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**dictionary applet
  
 
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I like the way desktop widgets are displayed in Mac OS X (easy accessible any moment - e.g. clock, calendar, calc)
 
 
  
  
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Special entry in .desktop files determining the priority
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Links:
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*[http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html#category-registry Freedesktop Menu Spec]
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*[http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ Desktop file spec]
  
*The order is important (Menu-Priotity field)
 
*apps with Menu-Priotity below some constant could be visually separated 
 
by the line
 
*A lot of apps may be hidden, we should decide how to do this 
 
(Menu-Priotity threshold)
 
*If category has only 1 item, the item should be displayed instead of 
 
category
 
  
*'Utilities' category isn't needed at all. For example:
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Critisism I recieved from [email protected] so far:
-'root terminal' should be in System
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*.... submenus are bad. They do not seem very usable to me, especially when the structure is not evident: ...
 
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**so it's better to look through all 10-20 entries (possibly in in each 
*Plasmoids:
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category) before finding app that you need?
**charselect should be callable from anywhere but K-Menu
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**there should be no more then ~5 items in each category
**kcalc
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*This breaks traditional alphabetical order...
 
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**alphabetical order is of small value when user doesnt know the name of the 
I like the way desktop widgets are displayed in Mac OS X
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app he/she is looking for.
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*Somehow 11 items seems better than 4 submenus
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**but I wrote only few apps, in real life there will be more apps
  
  
Critisism I recieved from [email protected] so far:
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And they don't believe that the menu is for newcomers, experienced users use 'Search' field anyway.
> .... submenus are bad. They do not seem very usable to me,
 
> especially when the structure is not evident: ...
 
so it's better to look through all 10-20 entries (possibly in in each 
 
category)
 
before finding app that you need?
 
  
> This breaks traditional alphabetical order...
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Comment: Please don't do this. I just discovered this confusion is on purpose and not by accident. We're reverting this in our Kubuntu packagesI'd rather not carry a diff from upstream, but we are not going to ship this.
alphabetical order is of small value when user doesnt know the name of the  
 
app he is looking for.
 
  
remember, the menu is for newcomers, experienced users use 'Search' field 
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Comment: normally I would think submenus are bad, but what if it were possible to only have a submenu appear if there is more than one app in a particular category? Much in tha same way a main category doesn't appear in the main menu unless there is a menu item there. just a random thought.
anyway.
 

Latest revision as of 23:52, 18 July 2009

Apps Menu Structure Proposal. I'd like to make apps menu more fine-grained by introducing submenus

Internet

Browsing

  • Konqueror
  • Firefox
  • Opera
  • Akregator

File download and sharing

  • aMule
  • KTorrent
  • KGet
  • KFtpGrabber

Communication

  • KMail
  • Kopete
  • Konversation
  • Kontact
  • KAddressBook
  • Knode

Connectivity

  • KPPP
  • KRDC
  • KRFB
  • networkmanager
  • <monitoring apps?>

Multimedia

Playing and Management

  • amarok
  • <videoplayers>
  • <tag editors>

Creation and editing

  • Kino
  • cinelerra
  • LiVES
  • Open Movie Editor
  • kdenlive
  • Audacity
  • Wink screencasting

Graphics

Viewing and Management

  • Okular
  • Gwenview
  • Digikam

Creation and editing

  • Krita
  • Kolourpaint
  • Gimp
  • Blender
  • Inkscape

Desktop publishing

  • scribus
  • kile
  • lyx

Education

  • Blinken

Lingustic

  • KHangMan
  • KWordQuiz
  • Parley

Math

  • KmPlot
  • KAlgebra
  • Kig

Science

  • KStars
  • Kalzium
  • KTurtle
  • Step

Office

  • k3b
  • Okular
  • Kwrite

Time management and Work Organization

  • KOrganizer
  • KTimeTracker (remove from menu -- present as plasmoid)
  • Kalarm (remove from menu -- present as plasmoid?)
  • KNotes
  • kontact
  • <Syncing apps>

Accounting

  • ?

OpenOffice.org

  • <openoffice apps>

KOffice

  • <koffice apps>

Desktop publishing

  • scribus
  • kile
  • lyx

Translation

System Tools

  • dolphin
  • Konsole
  • Strigi search
  • k3b
  • <Accessibility apps>

Monitor

  • KSysGuard
  • KSystemLog

Disc tools

  • gparted
  • filelight
  • <backup app>

Security

  • kwallet
  • klamav

Configuration

  • systemsettings
  • yast
  • <...>

Engineering

  • kompare

Programming

  • KDevelop
  • KCachegrind
  • <Version control tools?>

Web-development

  • Quanta

Translation

CAD

Math

Explanation

  • if several apps fulfill the same function (i.e. konqueror, opera, firefox), then their title should be in form of %function% - %appname%: "Web-browser - Konqueror", and they should be listed consequently
  • We need special entries in .desktop files determining the priority (Menu-Priority, Menu-Priority-KDE, Menu-Priority-Gnome).
    • Because the order is important
    • apps with Menu-Priotity above 100 constant could be visually separated by the line (they are the main apps in the category)
    • apps with Menu-Priotity below 10 may be hidden at all (i.e. they are rarely used by an average user)
    • If category has only 1 item, the item should be displayed instead of category
    • Statistics is needed for this (simple voting?)
  • 'Utilities' category isn't needed at all. For example, 'root terminal' should be in System.
  • Plasmoids: a lot of small apps need to be turned into plasmoids.
    • charselect should be callable from anywhere but K-Menu
    • kcalc -- the same
    • dictionary applet

I like the way desktop widgets are displayed in Mac OS X (easy accessible any moment - e.g. clock, calendar, calc)


Alternatively, instead of 'Office' we could use 'Desktop Publishing', putting 'Groupware (Kontact)' into 'Internet' +merge 'Graphics' to 'Multimedia':

  • Multimedia
  • k3b
    • Music
      • Play and Manage (amarok, tag editors)
      • Create and edit (Audacity)
    • Video
      • Play
      • Create and edit (kino, etc)
    • Graphics
      • View and Manage (Gwenview, Digikam)
      • Create and edit (Krita, Kolourpaint, Gimp)


Links:


Critisism I recieved from [email protected] so far:

  • .... submenus are bad. They do not seem very usable to me, especially when the structure is not evident: ...
    • so it's better to look through all 10-20 entries (possibly in in each

category) before finding app that you need?

    • there should be no more then ~5 items in each category
  • This breaks traditional alphabetical order...
    • alphabetical order is of small value when user doesnt know the name of the

app he/she is looking for.

  • Somehow 11 items seems better than 4 submenus
    • but I wrote only few apps, in real life there will be more apps


And they don't believe that the menu is for newcomers, experienced users use 'Search' field anyway.

Comment: Please don't do this. I just discovered this confusion is on purpose and not by accident. We're reverting this in our Kubuntu packages. I'd rather not carry a diff from upstream, but we are not going to ship this.

Comment: normally I would think submenus are bad, but what if it were possible to only have a submenu appear if there is more than one app in a particular category? Much in tha same way a main category doesn't appear in the main menu unless there is a menu item there. just a random thought.


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