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{{warning|These instructions are very old, and you probably want to go here: [https://community.kde.org/Windows] instead.}}


== KDE Installer for Windows ==
== KDE Installer for Windows ==
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KDE is free and open source so you can build all the applications "from scratch" from their source code;
KDE is free and open source so you can build all the applications "from scratch" from their source code;
but as a convenience for others,
but as a convenience for others,
volunteers create these precompiled packages and make them available on the Internet.
volunteers create these pre-compiled packages and make them available on the Internet.


'''Disclaimer''' These are early days for KDE4 on Windows,
'''Disclaimer''' These are early days for KDE4 on Windows,
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You can also use the KDE Installer for Windows to install source code and the packages that you need to ''build'' KDE4 on Windows
You can also use the KDE Installer for Windows to install source code and the packages that you need to ''build'' KDE4 on Windows
(although if you are building KDE4 on Windows you may prefer to use the emerge system to build KDE and its requirements from latest source);
(although if you are building KDE4 on Windows you may prefer to use the emerge system to build KDE and its requirements from latest source);
see [[Getting Started/Build/KDE4/Windows]].
see [[Getting Started/Build/Windows]].
 


=== Summary of Steps ===
=== Summary of Steps ===
* Visit http://download.cegit.de/kde-windows/installer/
* Download and save the latest version of the installer from [http://download.kde.org/stable/kdewin/installer/kdewin-installer-gui-latest.exe here] to a directory, e.g. <tt>C:\KDE4</tt>
* Download and save the latest version to a directory, e.g. <tt>C:\KDE4</tt>
* Run the installer, download and install what you need (see [[#Download needed packages|Download needed packages]] below).
* Run the installer, download what you need (see [[#Download needed packages]] below).
* Try to run a KDE application from the windows start menu (see for KDE x.x.x Release entry) 
* Add your lib directory, e.g. <tt>C:\KDE4\lib</tt> to your Windows %PATH%.  (Start > Control Panel > System > Advanced > Environment Variables, double-click the Path System Variable and add this to your path separated by semicolon.)
* Add a KDEDIRS environment variable (Start > Control Panel > System > Advanced > Environment Variables, click [New] User variable and create Variable name <tt>KDEDIRS</tt> with Variable value the directory where you installed KDE4, e.g. <tt>C:\KDE4</tt>).
* [TEMPORARILY] Follow the instructions at [[#post-install steps]]
* Try running a Qt application in the <tt>bin</tt> directory, such as linguist.exe
* If that works, try running a KDE application such as <tt>kwrite.exe</tt>.


=== Download needed packages ===
=== Download needed packages ===
A single program in the The K Desktop Environment depends on many other libraries and packages; that is why each .exe is comparatively small.
<br/>
The KDE Installer for Windows has some awareness of dependencies,
<br/>
but not complete.
[[File:installer-001.png|600px]]
So, the first few times you try to run an application you may see alerts about missing DLLs.
<br/>
 
When you run KDE-installer for the first time, you'll see the welcome screen. Since it's your first launch leave the checkbox below unchecked.
If you do not intend to build from source, do not click "all" and do not click "src", as you do not need to download the source for each package. ''Unclear whether you need lib for each''.
<br/>
 
<br/>
There are two development systems for KDE on Windows,
[[File:installer-002.png|600px]]
Microsoft's Visual C and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinGW MinGW].
<br/>
Even if you are only running binaries and do not intend to build KDE4 yourself,
Proceed to the next screen, where you choose the KDE4 installation directory. It can be anything you prefer, e.g. C:\KDE4.
you need to choose between these because of the provided runtime environments.
<br/>
You're free to decide which to take.
<br/>
 
[[File:installer-003.png|600px]]
The KDE programs themselves are organized into several groups: kdeedu, kdegames, and kdegraphics.
<br/>
 
On the next screen, define who you are: End User or Developer. The End User installation installs only binary packages and libraries needed to run KDE application. Package Manager mode provides you also with the source code for all packages needed to build KDE from scratch. <br/>  Then you need to decide what compiler to use - MinGW or MSVC.
Here are some of the minimal packages you need to run a KDE application:
<br/>
: dbus-msvc, kdebase-msvc, kdewin32-msvc, qt-msvc, vcredist, ??
<br/>
 
[[File:installer-004.png|600px]]
The Dependencies tab for a particular package lists some of the additional packages it needs.
<br/>
However, the dependency checking currently only works for first-level dependencies
Proceed to the next screen and there choose the directory where all the downloaded packages will be stored. Let it be something like C:\KDE4-tmp or C:\KDE4-packages.
Other dependencies are not easy to determine in advance.
<br/>
For example, if you install kdegames only with its dependencies,
<br/>
you will not be able to start it because you also need libstreamanalyze
[[File:installer-005.png|600px]]
(for which you have to install the strigi package).
<br/>
rhabacker: This is fixed in installer version > 0.8.4.  
The next screen will ask you to choose your internet connection type, particularly whether or not you're using a proxy. If you don't use a proxy server, just click 'Next'. If you are unsure of whether you're using proxy or if you have web browser configured to work with it properly, choose the second or the third option, according to your favourite web-browser. If you'd like to set all the settings manually - choose the last option and go ahead.
 
<br/>
[[Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Windows/3rd-party_libraries]] is a more complete list of libraries that a full installation needs.
<br/>
[[File:installer-006.png|600px]]
<br/>
When you click the 'Next' button the (currently, rather short) list of available servers will be loaded and you could choose the one closest to you.
<br/>
<br/>
[[File:installer-007.png|600px]]
<br/>
When you click 'Next', a list of available releases on the selected server will be shown. Depending on the server there may be stable and/or unstable release available. Some unstable releases may only be available from www.winkde.org because the kde mirrors provides only a limited range of unstable releases.
<br/>
<br/>
[[File:installer-008.png|600px]]
<br/>
After selecting a release an a click on the 'Next' button, the list of all available packages will be loaded and processed, providing you with the list of package groups you can select for further installation. The short description next to each group of packages should make your choice easier. Select the packages you need. Proceed to the next screen.
<br/>
<br/>
[[File:installer-009.png|600px]]
<br/>
Here you can see all the required dependencies, or software necessary to support the choices you've made. Click 'Next' to download them all.
<br/>
<br/>
[[File:installer-010.png|600px]]
<br/>
[[File:installer-011.png|600px]]
<br/>
After all the packages are downloaded they'll be unpacked and processed by the installer.
<br/>
<br/>
[[File:installer-012.png|600px]]
<br/>
The final window will tell that your KDE installation for Windows is complete.
<br/>


=== Issues with KDE Installer for Windows ===
=== Issues with KDE Installer for Windows ===
Currently no issues known. If you found an issue, please report to [mailto:[email protected]].
If something goes wrong during installation, for example a file can't be replaced because it is still in use, the installer may still report successful completion.  If you see any alert or failure message from the installer, when it completes, quit and re-run it.<br>
 
If that didn't help and you think it's a bug, please report to [mailto:kde-windows@kde.org]
== post-install steps ==
You currently need to run a number of command-line programs to set up KDE.  Here are the steps.
 
===Run update-mime-database===
Be sure that you have no KDE-related applications: run the Windows Task Manager (taskmgr.exe), switch to its Processes tab, and kill all occurences of dbus-daemon.exe, kded4.exe, kioslave.exe and klauncher.exe (and all other KDE apps).
 
Open a Windows command prompt (cmd.exe) and navigate to the directory where you installed KDE. Say you installed KDE to C:\KDE4, then run from the cmd.exe window:
  > '''bin\update-mime-database %KDEDIRS%\share\mime'''
This will give you a lot of warning message. Most of them you can easily ignore; even if you should set [[KDE_System_Administration/Environment_Variables#XDG_DATA_HOME|XDG_DATA_HOME]] or [[KDE_System_Administration/Environment_Variables#XDG_DATA_DIRS|XDG_DATA_DIRS]] it worked perfectly. If it says you should rerun update-mime-database as root then you're not within your installation directory.
 
===Run kbuildsyscoca4===
After finishing the previous step, run
  C:\KDE4> '''bin\kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental'''
If this tells you that your disk is full (which is most probably not the case) you have still some executables from KDE running. Please close them and try again.


Excuse us for the inconvenience &mdash; we hope for a better solution in the next release.
=== Additional software that you may want to install ===
In a few special cases applications included in the KDE on Windows Installer need [[/additional_software_needed|additional software]] to be fully functional. You will have to install this, manually.


== Testing your installation ==
== Testing your installation ==
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Qt programs have fewer dependencies than a full-blown KDE application.
Qt programs have fewer dependencies than a full-blown KDE application.


If that works, try running a simple KDE application, such as kruler.exe from the kdegraphics package.
If that works, try running a simple KDE application, such as lskat.exe from the kdegames package.


The first KDE application you run will start a console window in order to run the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus D-Bus daemon].
Look into your start menu: there will be a new entry KDE 4.XX.XX Release. Below that folder you can find all the apps you installed.


== Fine-tuning ==
=== Startup, shutdown, and diagnosing problems ===
===Set Oxygen style for widgets===
The first KDE program you run should automatically invoke <tt>kdeinit4.exe</tt>, the KDE initialization app,
The default KDE widget style on Windows is the native one. You already have Oxygen style installed (which is a plugin library %KDEROOT%\lib\kde4\plugins\styles\oxygen.dll), so it can be used as well. To set it for a single user:
which starts background KDE applications and services like dbus-daemon, klauncher and kded4.
#edit <tt>%UserPROFILE%\.kde\share\config\kdeglobals</tt> with any text editor (e.g. kwrite)
http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KDE_on_Windows/Installation
#locate line containing "[General]" text, what is a section, if there is no such line, add one
The first time you save or open, another background application, kioslave, will start.
#replace or add <tt>widgetStyle=....</tt> line with <tt>widgetStyle=oxygen</tt>.
Newly started applications should be displayed with Oxygen style now.


== Status ==
These background KDE applications and services remain running after you close KDE applications.  If you want you can shut them down by running <tt>kdeinit4 --terminate</tt> from a command prompt.
Using kdewin-installer-gui-0.8.5.exe to install 4.00.80 packages:
* starting a KDE program correctly starts dbus-daemon.exe
* many games run
* choosing File > Open correctly starts klauncher.exe, kioslave.exe and kded4.exe, and runs kbuildsycoca4.exe as needed.
* Help > ''Program'' Handbook (often mapped to the [F1] key) does not work because the KDE Help Center is not available on Windows.  This is due to its use of the K3Process interface and external dependencies not ported such as perl scripts, htdig, and other libraries.
** khelpcenter will be included in the next unstable release. The K3Process issues are fixed now. Perl scripts are disabled, which means there is no fulltext search. -- rhabacker
* Applications that try to play sounds will display an alert about "Multimedia Backend" problems. A Windows backend for [http://phonon.kde.org/ Phonon] is not packaged yet.


General notes:
You can run <tt>kdeinit4 --list</tt> from a command prompt to see what processes are running. <tt>kdeinit4</tt> has other useful options documented elsewhere.
* There are many other KDE programs that are not part of KDE 4.0.0 and are not currently packaged for Windows, such as KOffice 2 and Amarok.
* By design, KDE-windows does not provide the full-blown KDE desktop, thus no KWin composite manager, KDE-specific "start" menus, Plasma desktop, etc.


=== Package status and contents ===
==   Fine-tuning ==
{| border="0" cellpadding="2"
Find some useful information on how to modify the behavior of KDE applications [[../Fine-tuning|here]].
|-valign="top"
!package
!status
!contains applications
|-valign="top"
|kdebase
|packaged
|Konqueror, Dolphin, KWrite, etc.
|-valign="top"
|kdegames
|packaged
|Kgoldrunner, Kpat, KMahjongg, etc.
|-valign="top"
|kdesdk
|packaged
|Kate, Umbrello, etc.
|-valign="top"
|kdetoys
|packaged
|KTeatime, etc.
|-valign="top"
|kdeedu
|packaged
|Marble, Parley, KStars, KHangman, etc.
|-valign="top"
|kdegraphics
|not packaged
|Okular, kolourpaint, etc.
|-valign="top"
|amarok
|not packaged
|Amarok
|-valign="top"
|koffice
|not packaged
|KWord, Krita, Karbon, etc.
|-valign="top"
|kdepim
|not building
|KMail, AKregator, etc.
|-valign="top"
|kdenetwork
|not building
|Kopete, KGet, etc.
|}


[[Category: MS Windows]]
[[Category: MS Windows]]

Latest revision as of 09:46, 7 September 2016


Warning
These instructions are very old, and you probably want to go here: [1] instead.


KDE Installer for Windows

You can use this installer to download and install the various binary packages that you need to run KDE applications on MS Windows. KDE is free and open source so you can build all the applications "from scratch" from their source code; but as a convenience for others, volunteers create these pre-compiled packages and make them available on the Internet.

Disclaimer These are early days for KDE4 on Windows, some programs work better than others and some fail to run altogether.

If you experience any problems please have a look into our mailing list.

You can also use the KDE Installer for Windows to install source code and the packages that you need to build KDE4 on Windows (although if you are building KDE4 on Windows you may prefer to use the emerge system to build KDE and its requirements from latest source); see Getting Started/Build/Windows.


Summary of Steps

  • Download and save the latest version of the installer from here to a directory, e.g. C:\KDE4
  • Run the installer, download and install what you need (see Download needed packages below).
  • Try to run a KDE application from the windows start menu (see for KDE x.x.x Release entry)

Download needed packages




When you run KDE-installer for the first time, you'll see the welcome screen. Since it's your first launch leave the checkbox below unchecked.


Proceed to the next screen, where you choose the KDE4 installation directory. It can be anything you prefer, e.g. C:\KDE4.


On the next screen, define who you are: End User or Developer. The End User installation installs only binary packages and libraries needed to run KDE application. Package Manager mode provides you also with the source code for all packages needed to build KDE from scratch.
Then you need to decide what compiler to use - MinGW or MSVC.


Proceed to the next screen and there choose the directory where all the downloaded packages will be stored. Let it be something like C:\KDE4-tmp or C:\KDE4-packages.


The next screen will ask you to choose your internet connection type, particularly whether or not you're using a proxy. If you don't use a proxy server, just click 'Next'. If you are unsure of whether you're using proxy or if you have web browser configured to work with it properly, choose the second or the third option, according to your favourite web-browser. If you'd like to set all the settings manually - choose the last option and go ahead.


When you click the 'Next' button the (currently, rather short) list of available servers will be loaded and you could choose the one closest to you.


When you click 'Next', a list of available releases on the selected server will be shown. Depending on the server there may be stable and/or unstable release available. Some unstable releases may only be available from www.winkde.org because the kde mirrors provides only a limited range of unstable releases.


After selecting a release an a click on the 'Next' button, the list of all available packages will be loaded and processed, providing you with the list of package groups you can select for further installation. The short description next to each group of packages should make your choice easier. Select the packages you need. Proceed to the next screen.


Here you can see all the required dependencies, or software necessary to support the choices you've made. Click 'Next' to download them all.



After all the packages are downloaded they'll be unpacked and processed by the installer.


The final window will tell that your KDE installation for Windows is complete.

Issues with KDE Installer for Windows

If something goes wrong during installation, for example a file can't be replaced because it is still in use, the installer may still report successful completion. If you see any alert or failure message from the installer, when it completes, quit and re-run it.
If that didn't help and you think it's a bug, please report to [2]

Additional software that you may want to install

In a few special cases applications included in the KDE on Windows Installer need additional software to be fully functional. You will have to install this, manually.

Testing your installation

Navigate to the bin directory.

See if you can run the Qt program assistant.exe. Qt programs have fewer dependencies than a full-blown KDE application.

If that works, try running a simple KDE application, such as lskat.exe from the kdegames package.

Look into your start menu: there will be a new entry KDE 4.XX.XX Release. Below that folder you can find all the apps you installed.

Startup, shutdown, and diagnosing problems

The first KDE program you run should automatically invoke kdeinit4.exe, the KDE initialization app, which starts background KDE applications and services like dbus-daemon, klauncher and kded4. http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KDE_on_Windows/Installation The first time you save or open, another background application, kioslave, will start.

These background KDE applications and services remain running after you close KDE applications. If you want you can shut them down by running kdeinit4 --terminate from a command prompt.

You can run kdeinit4 --list from a command prompt to see what processes are running. kdeinit4 has other useful options documented elsewhere.

Fine-tuning

Find some useful information on how to modify the behavior of KDE applications here.

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