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''' WARNING ''' KAider was renamed to '''[http://userbase.kde.org/Lokalize Lokalize]''' and will be included in kdesdk package for KDE 4.1 | |||
Lokalize is a computer-aided translation system that focuses on productivity and performance. Translator does only creative work (of delivering message in his/her mother language in laconic and easy to understand form). Lokalize implies paragraph-by-paragraph translation approach (when translating documentation) and message-by-message approach (when translating GUI). | |||
See [[Projects/Summer_of_Code/2007/Projects/KAider/Introduction|KAider/Introduction]] | |||
==Current state== | ==Current state== | ||
Already has: | |||
* syntax highlighting | * syntax highlighting | ||
* spellcheck ( | * spellcheck (sonnet needs improvement) | ||
* search-n-replace, ignoring accel marks | * search-n-replace, ignoring accel marks | ||
* bookmarks | * formats .po file output better so less diff is generated by scripty | ||
* | * small features like quick tag insert, placing text cursor right after the tag in the beginning (e.g. '<qt>|foobar</qt>' where "|" is a cursor), entry bookmarks | ||
* mode | * viewer of the difference between current msgid and previous one (i.e. msgid translation of which current msgstr really is -- for fuzzies generated with --previous gettext option) | ||
* merge mode for editors (QA) or when several translators work on the same file [http://kv-53.narod.ru/kaider2.png screenshot] | |||
* basic projectmanager functionality [http://kv-53.narod.ru/kaider1.png screenshot] | * basic projectmanager functionality [http://kv-53.narod.ru/kaider1.png screenshot] | ||
* glossary with basic [http://www.lisa.org/standards/tbx/ tbx] format support. | * Translation Memory (threaded) with shortcuts for inserting suggestions into current 'msgstr', scores are computed based on common/total length ratio, removed+added length, and count of removed+added parts [http://kv-53.narod.ru/kaider_tm.png screenshot] | ||
[http://kv-53.narod.ru/kaider3.png screenshot] | * for difference representation in all places word-by-word algorithm is used (based on the Longest Common Sequence o(n*n) algorithm and my own experience) | ||
* glossary with basic [http://www.lisa.org/standards/tbx/ tbx] format support. Lokalize displays relevant entries on-the-fly and provides shortcuts to insert them. also, you can add new glossary terms via context menu of the glossary. [http://kv-53.narod.ru/kaider3.png screenshot 1] [http://kv-53.narod.ru/kaider4.png screenshot 2] | |||
* Search/Replace functions in multiple files at once. | |||
* Spellchecking of multiple files at once. | |||
* beginnings of XLIFF support | |||
==Compiling== | ==Compiling== | ||
After you [[Getting_Started/Build | After you [[Getting_Started/Build|set kde env up]] (compiling kdelibs+kdebase is enough): | ||
svn checkout -N svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdesdk/ | |||
svn up | cd kdesdk && svn up cmake doc lokalize | ||
mkdir kdesdk/build && chmod a+w kdesdk/build | |||
su kde-devel | su kde-devel | ||
cd kdesdk/build | |||
cd | |||
cmakekde .. | cmakekde .. | ||
as a root, run sshd and then from the usual shell: | as a root, run sshd and then from the usual shell: | ||
ssh -XC kde-devel@localhost | ssh -XC kde-devel@localhost | ||
lokalize | |||
you can get catalogmanager by specifying --project option | |||
lokalize --project /path/to/index.ktp | |||
See [[Projects/Summer_of_Code/2007/Projects/KAider#Setup]]. | |||
== | ===Debian users=== | ||
You can install the latest version of lokalize from experimental repository: [http://packages.debian.org/experimental/lokalize] | |||
==Setup== | ==Setup== | ||
* Create project, saving *.ktp file to | * Create project, saving *.ktp file to l10n-kde4/<LangCode>/ dir | ||
* | * Populate Glossary via GlossaryView context menu (.tbx file will be created automatically for you on the first entry addition). | ||
* Populate Translation Memory by dropping .po files onto TM View | |||
See [http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/ru/] for an example project structure | |||
==Maxims== | |||
* Majority of actions must be accessible via keyboard (because it is faster to press a shotcut than to be frustrated with a mouse) | |||
* Do automatization _everywhere_ possible | |||
* Focus on translation quality. This is open source -- so source code is available (for change) | |||
==Further work== | |||
*WebQuery for twin languages (like Ukrainian and Russian) | |||
*xliff+qt-linguist support (see [[#KBabel features to be implemented|KBabel features to be implemented]]) | |||
* Glossary checklists: check for forbidden terms in new translation | |||
* project-wise and program-wise: webquery scripts, glossaries, TMs | |||
* check for different translations of the same msgid (use strigi?) | |||
* back-checking, to see whether a term/string in the target language has been used as translation for different things, not just that one source has the same translation everywhere. | |||
* Tighten SVN support: svn diff-like feature | |||
* Automatic Glossary building | |||
* Research on dividing into sentences rules (e.g. srx) | |||
* Automate submitting translation suggestions to translate.google.com [Kross action] | |||
* fill TM with content of /usr/share/locale/<lang>/LC_MESSAGES/*.mo [Kross action] | |||
Not for KDE: | |||
* Be complete computer-aided translation system by providing e.g. actions to import+export openoffice, txt and documents of other formats by calling appropriate scripts/commands. Define for that general kross actions interface. | |||
* Make nice windoze package for the windowzerz | |||
Competitors (ideas): | |||
* [http://www.triplespin.com/en/products/locfactoryeditor.html#whatsnew locfactoryeditor] --Mac only | |||
* [http://www.heartsome.net/EN/downloads.html Heartsome] --multiplatform, costs money | |||
* Go over [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=520350&group_id=68187&func=browse OmegaT wishlist] and ensure every sane wish is implemented | |||
Converters (use, acting as a front-end): | |||
* [http://file2xliff4j.sourceforge.net/javadoc/file2xliff4j/package-summary.html file2xliff4j] --java-based | |||
* [https://open-language-tools.dev.java.net] --java-based | |||
* [http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/index Translate Toolkit] --python-based, checks, other goodness | |||
=== | ==KBabel features to be implemented== | ||
...in a smarter way :) | |||
* persistent bookmarks for messages in a file saved in the project | |||
* extended marking of .po and .pot files (e.g. translator that currently works on the file and cince when) saved in the project | |||
* A plugin framework for validation tools for consistency checks [Kross action triggered on saving] | |||
* Sending the file using email [Kross (project) action] | |||
* Automatic syntax check with msgfmt when saving and, if an error occured, easy navigation to messages, which contain errors. == Syntax check (msgfmt --statistics) for existing files to control if the translated files will compile and, accordingly, work when distributed [Kross (project) action] | |||
* PO File Header change [Kross action (+triggered on saving)] | |||
* Printing of selected messages (eg fuzzy ) [Kross action] | |||
Also: | |||
* msgid-diff-msgstr from [http://lichota.net/~krzysiek/projects/msgtools/] (features for all other commands are already implemented, if you haven't noticed this) | |||
==KBabel features NOT to be implemented== | |||
* Character selection tool integration, sort by the frequency | |||
Why? Better improve system-wide charselect tool, OR... | |||
modify your xorg keyboard layout! | |||
Latest revision as of 23:02, 19 March 2011
WARNING KAider was renamed to Lokalize and will be included in kdesdk package for KDE 4.1
Lokalize is a computer-aided translation system that focuses on productivity and performance. Translator does only creative work (of delivering message in his/her mother language in laconic and easy to understand form). Lokalize implies paragraph-by-paragraph translation approach (when translating documentation) and message-by-message approach (when translating GUI). See KAider/Introduction
Current state
Already has:
- syntax highlighting
- spellcheck (sonnet needs improvement)
- search-n-replace, ignoring accel marks
- formats .po file output better so less diff is generated by scripty
- small features like quick tag insert, placing text cursor right after the tag in the beginning (e.g. '<qt>|foobar</qt>' where "|" is a cursor), entry bookmarks
- viewer of the difference between current msgid and previous one (i.e. msgid translation of which current msgstr really is -- for fuzzies generated with --previous gettext option)
- merge mode for editors (QA) or when several translators work on the same file screenshot
- basic projectmanager functionality screenshot
- Translation Memory (threaded) with shortcuts for inserting suggestions into current 'msgstr', scores are computed based on common/total length ratio, removed+added length, and count of removed+added parts screenshot
- for difference representation in all places word-by-word algorithm is used (based on the Longest Common Sequence o(n*n) algorithm and my own experience)
- glossary with basic tbx format support. Lokalize displays relevant entries on-the-fly and provides shortcuts to insert them. also, you can add new glossary terms via context menu of the glossary. screenshot 1 screenshot 2
- Search/Replace functions in multiple files at once.
- Spellchecking of multiple files at once.
- beginnings of XLIFF support
Compiling
After you set kde env up (compiling kdelibs+kdebase is enough):
svn checkout -N svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdesdk/ cd kdesdk && svn up cmake doc lokalize mkdir kdesdk/build && chmod a+w kdesdk/build su kde-devel cd kdesdk/build cmakekde ..
as a root, run sshd and then from the usual shell:
ssh -XC kde-devel@localhost lokalize
you can get catalogmanager by specifying --project option
lokalize --project /path/to/index.ktp
See Projects/Summer_of_Code/2007/Projects/KAider#Setup.
Debian users
You can install the latest version of lokalize from experimental repository: [1]
Setup
- Create project, saving *.ktp file to l10n-kde4/<LangCode>/ dir
- Populate Glossary via GlossaryView context menu (.tbx file will be created automatically for you on the first entry addition).
- Populate Translation Memory by dropping .po files onto TM View
See [2] for an example project structure
Maxims
- Majority of actions must be accessible via keyboard (because it is faster to press a shotcut than to be frustrated with a mouse)
- Do automatization _everywhere_ possible
- Focus on translation quality. This is open source -- so source code is available (for change)
Further work
- WebQuery for twin languages (like Ukrainian and Russian)
- xliff+qt-linguist support (see KBabel features to be implemented)
- Glossary checklists: check for forbidden terms in new translation
- project-wise and program-wise: webquery scripts, glossaries, TMs
- check for different translations of the same msgid (use strigi?)
- back-checking, to see whether a term/string in the target language has been used as translation for different things, not just that one source has the same translation everywhere.
- Tighten SVN support: svn diff-like feature
- Automatic Glossary building
- Research on dividing into sentences rules (e.g. srx)
- Automate submitting translation suggestions to translate.google.com [Kross action]
- fill TM with content of /usr/share/locale/<lang>/LC_MESSAGES/*.mo [Kross action]
Not for KDE:
- Be complete computer-aided translation system by providing e.g. actions to import+export openoffice, txt and documents of other formats by calling appropriate scripts/commands. Define for that general kross actions interface.
- Make nice windoze package for the windowzerz
Competitors (ideas):
- locfactoryeditor --Mac only
- Heartsome --multiplatform, costs money
- Go over OmegaT wishlist and ensure every sane wish is implemented
Converters (use, acting as a front-end):
- file2xliff4j --java-based
- [3] --java-based
- Translate Toolkit --python-based, checks, other goodness
KBabel features to be implemented
...in a smarter way :)
- persistent bookmarks for messages in a file saved in the project
- extended marking of .po and .pot files (e.g. translator that currently works on the file and cince when) saved in the project
- A plugin framework for validation tools for consistency checks [Kross action triggered on saving]
- Sending the file using email [Kross (project) action]
- Automatic syntax check with msgfmt when saving and, if an error occured, easy navigation to messages, which contain errors. == Syntax check (msgfmt --statistics) for existing files to control if the translated files will compile and, accordingly, work when distributed [Kross (project) action]
- PO File Header change [Kross action (+triggered on saving)]
- Printing of selected messages (eg fuzzy ) [Kross action]
Also:
- msgid-diff-msgstr from [4] (features for all other commands are already implemented, if you haven't noticed this)
KBabel features NOT to be implemented
- Character selection tool integration, sort by the frequency
Why? Better improve system-wide charselect tool, OR... modify your xorg keyboard layout!