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''Apps Menu Structure Proposal''. I'd like to make apps menu more fine-grained by introducing submenus | '''Apps Menu Structure Proposal'''. I'd like to make apps menu more fine-grained by introducing submenus | ||
==Internet== | ==Internet== | ||
=== | ===Browsing=== | ||
*Konqueror | *Konqueror | ||
*Firefox | |||
*Opera | |||
*Akregator | *Akregator | ||
===File download and sharing=== | ===File download and sharing=== | ||
*aMule | *aMule | ||
*KTorrent | *KTorrent | ||
*KGet | *KGet | ||
*KFtpGrabber | |||
===Communication=== | ===Communication=== | ||
*KMail | *KMail | ||
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*Konversation | *Konversation | ||
*Kontact | *Kontact | ||
*KAddressBook | |||
*Knode | *Knode | ||
===Connectivity=== | ===Connectivity=== | ||
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*KRDC | *KRDC | ||
*KRFB | *KRFB | ||
*networkmanager | |||
*<monitoring apps?> | *<monitoring apps?> | ||
==Multimedia== | ==Multimedia== | ||
=== | ===Playing and Management=== | ||
*amarok | *amarok | ||
* | *<videoplayers> | ||
*<tag editors> | *<tag editors> | ||
===Creation and editing=== | |||
=== | |||
*Kino | *Kino | ||
*cinelerra | |||
*LiVES | |||
*Open Movie Editor | |||
*kdenlive | |||
*Audacity | *Audacity | ||
*Wink screencasting | |||
==Graphics== | ==Graphics== | ||
=== | ===Viewing and Management=== | ||
*Okular | |||
*Gwenview | *Gwenview | ||
*Digikam | *Digikam | ||
=== | ===Creation and editing=== | ||
*Krita | *Krita | ||
*Kolourpaint | *Kolourpaint | ||
*Gimp | *Gimp | ||
*Blender | |||
*Inkscape | |||
===Desktop publishing=== | |||
*scribus | |||
*kile | |||
*lyx | |||
==Education== | |||
*Blinken | |||
===Lingustic=== | |||
*KHangMan | |||
*KWordQuiz | |||
*Parley | |||
===Math=== | |||
*KmPlot | |||
*KAlgebra | |||
*Kig | |||
===Science=== | |||
*KStars | |||
*Kalzium | |||
*KTurtle | |||
*Step | |||
==Office== | ==Office== | ||
=== | *k3b | ||
*< | *Okular | ||
*Kwrite | |||
===Time management and Work Organization=== | |||
*KOrganizer | |||
*KTimeTracker (remove from menu -- present as plasmoid) | |||
*Kalarm (remove from menu -- present as plasmoid?) | |||
*KNotes | |||
*kontact | |||
*<Syncing apps> | |||
===Accounting=== | |||
*? | |||
===OpenOffice.org=== | ===OpenOffice.org=== | ||
*<openoffice apps> | *<openoffice apps> | ||
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*<koffice apps> | *<koffice apps> | ||
===Desktop publishing=== | ===Desktop publishing=== | ||
*scribus | *scribus | ||
*kile | *kile | ||
*lyx | |||
===Translation=== | |||
* [http://userbase.kde.org/Lokalize Lokalize] | |||
*OmegaT | |||
*<dictionaries> | |||
==System Tools== | ==System Tools== | ||
*dolphin | |||
*Konsole | *Konsole | ||
*Strigi search | |||
*k3b | |||
*<Accessibility apps> | |||
===Monitor=== | |||
*KSysGuard | *KSysGuard | ||
*KSystemLog | *KSystemLog | ||
* | ===Disc tools=== | ||
*gparted | |||
*filelight | |||
*<backup app> | *<backup app> | ||
* | |||
===Security=== | |||
*kwallet | |||
*klamav | |||
==Configuration== | ==Configuration== | ||
*systemsettings | |||
*yast | |||
*<...> | *<...> | ||
==Engineering== | ==Engineering== | ||
*kompare | *kompare | ||
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*KDevelop | *KDevelop | ||
*KCachegrind | *KCachegrind | ||
*<Version control tools?> | |||
===Web-development=== | ===Web-development=== | ||
*Quanta | *Quanta | ||
===Translation=== | ===Translation=== | ||
*Lokalize | * [http://userbase.kde.org/Lokalize Lokalize] | ||
*OmegaT | |||
===CAD=== | ===CAD=== | ||
===Math=== | ===Math=== | ||
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'''Explanation''' | |||
*if several apps fulfill the same function (i.e. konqueror, opera, firefox), then their title should be in form of %function% - %appname%: "Web-browser - Konqueror", and they should be listed consequently | |||
*We need special entries in .desktop files determining the priority (Menu-Priority, Menu-Priority-KDE, Menu-Priority-Gnome). | |||
**Because the order is important | |||
**apps with Menu-Priotity above 100 constant could be visually separated by the line (they are the main apps in the category) | |||
**apps with Menu-Priotity below 10 may be hidden at all (i.e. they are rarely used by an average user) | |||
**If category has only 1 item, the item should be displayed instead of category | |||
**Statistics is needed for this (simple voting?) | |||
*'Utilities' category isn't needed at all. For example, 'root terminal' should be in System. | |||
*Plasmoids: a lot of small apps need to be turned into plasmoids. | |||
**charselect should be callable from anywhere but K-Menu | |||
**kcalc -- the same | |||
**dictionary applet | |||
I like the way desktop widgets are displayed in Mac OS X (easy accessible any moment - e.g. clock, calendar, calc) | |||
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Links: | |||
*[http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html#category-registry Freedesktop Menu Spec] | |||
*[http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ Desktop file spec] | |||
* | Critisism I recieved from kde-devel@ so far: | ||
- | *.... submenus are bad. They do not seem very usable to me, especially when the structure is not evident: ... | ||
**so it's better to look through all 10-20 entries (possibly in in each | |||
category) before finding app that you need? | |||
I | **there should be no more then ~5 items in each category | ||
*This breaks traditional alphabetical order... | |||
**alphabetical order is of small value when user doesnt know the name of the | |||
app he/she is looking for. | |||
*Somehow 11 items seems better than 4 submenus | |||
**but I wrote only few apps, in real life there will be more apps | |||
And they don't believe that the menu is for newcomers, experienced users use 'Search' field anyway. | |||
Comment: Please don't do this. I just discovered this confusion is on purpose and not by accident. We're reverting this in our Kubuntu packages. I'd rather not carry a diff from upstream, but we are not going to ship this. | |||
Comment: normally I would think submenus are bad, but what if it were possible to only have a submenu appear if there is more than one app in a particular category? Much in tha same way a main category doesn't appear in the main menu unless there is a menu item there. just a random thought. | |||
Latest revision as of 23:52, 18 July 2009
Apps Menu Structure Proposal. I'd like to make apps menu more fine-grained by introducing submenus
Internet
Browsing
- Konqueror
- Firefox
- Opera
- Akregator
File download and sharing
- aMule
- KTorrent
- KGet
- KFtpGrabber
Communication
- KMail
- Kopete
- Konversation
- Kontact
- KAddressBook
- Knode
Connectivity
- KPPP
- KRDC
- KRFB
- networkmanager
- <monitoring apps?>
Multimedia
Playing and Management
- amarok
- <videoplayers>
- <tag editors>
Creation and editing
- Kino
- cinelerra
- LiVES
- Open Movie Editor
- kdenlive
- Audacity
- Wink screencasting
Graphics
Viewing and Management
- Okular
- Gwenview
- Digikam
Creation and editing
- Krita
- Kolourpaint
- Gimp
- Blender
- Inkscape
Desktop publishing
- scribus
- kile
- lyx
Education
- Blinken
Lingustic
- KHangMan
- KWordQuiz
- Parley
Math
- KmPlot
- KAlgebra
- Kig
Science
- KStars
- Kalzium
- KTurtle
- Step
Office
- k3b
- Okular
- Kwrite
Time management and Work Organization
- KOrganizer
- KTimeTracker (remove from menu -- present as plasmoid)
- Kalarm (remove from menu -- present as plasmoid?)
- KNotes
- kontact
- <Syncing apps>
Accounting
- ?
OpenOffice.org
- <openoffice apps>
KOffice
- <koffice apps>
Desktop publishing
- scribus
- kile
- lyx
Translation
- Lokalize
- OmegaT
- <dictionaries>
System Tools
- dolphin
- Konsole
- Strigi search
- k3b
- <Accessibility apps>
Monitor
- KSysGuard
- KSystemLog
Disc tools
- gparted
- filelight
- <backup app>
Security
- kwallet
- klamav
Configuration
- systemsettings
- yast
- <...>
Engineering
- kompare
Programming
- KDevelop
- KCachegrind
- <Version control tools?>
Web-development
- Quanta
Translation
- Lokalize
- OmegaT
CAD
Math
Explanation
- if several apps fulfill the same function (i.e. konqueror, opera, firefox), then their title should be in form of %function% - %appname%: "Web-browser - Konqueror", and they should be listed consequently
- We need special entries in .desktop files determining the priority (Menu-Priority, Menu-Priority-KDE, Menu-Priority-Gnome).
- Because the order is important
- apps with Menu-Priotity above 100 constant could be visually separated by the line (they are the main apps in the category)
- apps with Menu-Priotity below 10 may be hidden at all (i.e. they are rarely used by an average user)
- If category has only 1 item, the item should be displayed instead of category
- Statistics is needed for this (simple voting?)
- 'Utilities' category isn't needed at all. For example, 'root terminal' should be in System.
- Plasmoids: a lot of small apps need to be turned into plasmoids.
- charselect should be callable from anywhere but K-Menu
- kcalc -- the same
- dictionary applet
I like the way desktop widgets are displayed in Mac OS X (easy accessible any moment - e.g. clock, calendar, calc)
Alternatively, instead of 'Office' we could use 'Desktop Publishing',
putting
'Groupware (Kontact)' into 'Internet' +merge 'Graphics' to 'Multimedia':
- Multimedia
- k3b
- Music
- Play and Manage (amarok, tag editors)
- Create and edit (Audacity)
- Video
- Play
- Create and edit (kino, etc)
- Graphics
- View and Manage (Gwenview, Digikam)
- Create and edit (Krita, Kolourpaint, Gimp)
- Music
Links:
Critisism I recieved from kde-devel@ so far:
- .... submenus are bad. They do not seem very usable to me, especially when the structure is not evident: ...
- so it's better to look through all 10-20 entries (possibly in in each
category) before finding app that you need?
- there should be no more then ~5 items in each category
- This breaks traditional alphabetical order...
- alphabetical order is of small value when user doesnt know the name of the
app he/she is looking for.
- Somehow 11 items seems better than 4 submenus
- but I wrote only few apps, in real life there will be more apps
And they don't believe that the menu is for newcomers, experienced users use 'Search' field anyway.
Comment: Please don't do this. I just discovered this confusion is on purpose and not by accident. We're reverting this in our Kubuntu packages. I'd rather not carry a diff from upstream, but we are not going to ship this.
Comment: normally I would think submenus are bad, but what if it were possible to only have a submenu appear if there is more than one app in a particular category? Much in tha same way a main category doesn't appear in the main menu unless there is a menu item there. just a random thought.