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== Arangement of the main categories ==
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There is a bit of redundancy with development, and complete skippage of the most common ways to install KDE with distribution package managers... that is also technical...  Would you consider reordering these:
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* Discover
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** Setting up
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** Developing
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** System Administration
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* Interact
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** Join
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** ISV
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* Develop
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** KDE Proects
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to
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* Discover
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** Aquire/Install
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** Set Up
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** Using KDE
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** System Administration
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* Interact
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** Join
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** ISV
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* Develop
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** Prerequisites
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** Build Enviornment
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** Projects
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--[[User:AaronPeterson|AaronPeterson]] 07:23, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
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==Sys Admin Area==
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I've created the start of a basic Sys Admin area, which is essentially taken from the existing [http://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin/ KDE sysadmin] pages. Everyone seems to agree that the current location is a poor choice. I spent some time today doing up a mind map of the information there and broke out the new [[KDE System Administration|sys admin]] page on this wiki along those lines.
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However, before I get too far along the trail, I'd like to confirm with others that this is a desired development. I'm also interested in feedback on the entries I made on the new [[KDE System Administration|sys admin]] page. --[[User:Aseigo|Aseigo]] 00:44, 30 January 2007 (CET)
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:I do like it, but granted, I'm only the sysadmin of my own installations :) --[[User:Dhaumann|Dhaumann]] 09:10, 30 January 2007 (CET)
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::I indeed like it. We should put all the pages into a SysAdmin category or something similar.
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::Btw, I even think we should tag all articles with KDE3 and/or KDE4. For example all tutorials which right now are implicit for KDE4 should still be tagged as such. Then, they also consequently appear in "Allpages > KDE4". --[[User:Dhaumann|Dhaumann]] 01:50, 3 February 2007 (CET)
  
 
==License==
 
==License==
 
I suggest we move to [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ cc-by-sa] right from the beginning. Please see the [http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml Draft Debian Position Statement About The GNU Free Documentation License(GFDL)]. [[User:Logixoul|Logixoul]] 14:10, 8 September 2006 (CEST)
 
I suggest we move to [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ cc-by-sa] right from the beginning. Please see the [http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml Draft Debian Position Statement About The GNU Free Documentation License(GFDL)]. [[User:Logixoul|Logixoul]] 14:10, 8 September 2006 (CEST)
  
== Icons ==
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:Or dual license, keep GFDL and use CC. (There was some discussion about this on Wikipedia iirc) [[User:CuCullin|CuCullin]] 19:31, 9 January 2007 (CET)
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:Dual license seems sanest to me as well. I'd also suggest just cc-sa. I'm not sure what we would expect/hope to win with attribution requirements? Especially since the authorship will be large... --[[User:Aseigo|Aseigo]] 00:44, 30 January 2007 (CET)
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::Maybe we should display the license(s) in the footer, something like "... | Legal | <here comes the license>" --[[User:Dhaumann|Dhaumann]] 01:50, 3 February 2007 (CET)
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== Oxygen theme ==
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I really like the Oxygen theme on this wiki, but might we reconsider the fixed width bit?  It makes some of the pages (e.g. recent changes) not work as well, wrapping lines and making them difficult to read. --[[User:Axiom|Axiom]] 20:50, 14 January 2007 (CET)
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: We have had this discussion over and over again but at the same time we got very positive feedback (e.g. on the kde-www mailing list). Changing the layout is very unlikely. I agree that due to our use of subpages the urls get long and a bit unreadable, but that's hardly a reason to change the layout of all *kde.org pages. --[[User:Dhaumann|Dhaumann]] 23:49, 14 January 2007 (CET)
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:: You can configure which skin is used in your preferences. A "Full width Oxygen" skin would be nice. --[[User:Argonel|Argonel]] 04:44, 18 January 2007 (CET)
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== Something wrong with the CAPTCHAs ==
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Every time I make an edit, it says I am trying to add a url, even when I am not. Perhaps I will get better a simple math, but they are slightly annoying. --[[User:Axiom|Axiom]] 19:51, 21 January 2007 (CET)
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:Ping danimo about this issue. I had the same problem even after I registered. He had to nudge my account properly to make it work. --[[User:Aseigo|Aseigo]] 00:44, 30 January 2007 (CET)
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== Link at the top of the page ==
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In the Oxygen style, the link "KDE TechBase" at the top points to the main page. Maybe the KDE logo left to it should also be a link. -- [[Special:Contributions/129.143.4.66|129.143.4.66]] 09:27, 22 February 2008 (CET)
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== Nedit will not display on KDE 4.1 ==
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The following error message is displayed:
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:nedit: the current locale is utf8 (en_US.UTF-8)
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:nedit: changed locale to non-utf8 (en_US)
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X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
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  Major opcode of failed request:  45 (X_OpenFont)
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  Serial number of failed request:  26
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  Current serial number in output stream:  27
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== Link To UserBase ==
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I'd suggest a link to userbase.kde.org as we're hearing from users who accidentally stumble onto techbase by mistake and get very confused.  I'd suggest a wording like "KDE TechBase is a resource for Developers, for User documentation please see UserBase" positioned in a prominent above the first Develop logo.
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== KDE4.4.1(FC12) Service Discovery always uses .local as domain? ==
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Hi Techbase,
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Dumb question here, I can't get anything that relies on service discovery to work. This is because the domain is always somemachine.local and not the correct domain.
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The computer is setup correctly and can forward and reverse look itself up. The DHCP server seems OK too.
  
What is up with the dots at the top left corner of the icon images on this page? --[[User:24.88.119.172|24.88.119.172]] 04:07, 9 January 2007 (CET)
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Is there somewhere in KDE44 that I need to set the localdomain to change it from .local?
  
:I can only assume it's something to do with the resizing algorithm(?) since they're using SVG. If you look at, e.g. [[:Image:Action_launch.svg]] you'll see there's no artifacts visible. --[[User:Milliams|milliams]] 16:19, 9 January 2007 (CET)
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Service Discovery is working and has correctly identified the computers and the services in dolphin but adds .local to their names. Likewise the remote desktop stuff finds all the computers, but it also adds .local to the names. This makes me think that the Service Discovery always uses .local no matter what one does.
  
::I think so, too. I hope it will be fixed automatically when we update to Qt4 bugfix releases. --[[User:Dhaumann|Dhaumann]] 16:34, 9 January 2007 (CET)
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Thanks
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Phill.

Latest revision as of 22:06, 1 August 2010

Contents

[edit] Arangement of the main categories

There is a bit of redundancy with development, and complete skippage of the most common ways to install KDE with distribution package managers... that is also technical... Would you consider reordering these:

  • Discover
    • Setting up
    • Developing
    • System Administration
  • Interact
    • Join
    • ISV
  • Develop
    • KDE Proects

to

  • Discover
    • Aquire/Install
    • Set Up
    • Using KDE
    • System Administration
  • Interact
    • Join
    • ISV
  • Develop
    • Prerequisites
    • Build Enviornment
    • Projects

--AaronPeterson 07:23, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


[edit] Sys Admin Area

I've created the start of a basic Sys Admin area, which is essentially taken from the existing KDE sysadmin pages. Everyone seems to agree that the current location is a poor choice. I spent some time today doing up a mind map of the information there and broke out the new sys admin page on this wiki along those lines.

However, before I get too far along the trail, I'd like to confirm with others that this is a desired development. I'm also interested in feedback on the entries I made on the new sys admin page. --Aseigo 00:44, 30 January 2007 (CET)

I do like it, but granted, I'm only the sysadmin of my own installations :) --Dhaumann 09:10, 30 January 2007 (CET)
I indeed like it. We should put all the pages into a SysAdmin category or something similar.
Btw, I even think we should tag all articles with KDE3 and/or KDE4. For example all tutorials which right now are implicit for KDE4 should still be tagged as such. Then, they also consequently appear in "Allpages > KDE4". --Dhaumann 01:50, 3 February 2007 (CET)

[edit] License

I suggest we move to cc-by-sa right from the beginning. Please see the Draft Debian Position Statement About The GNU Free Documentation License(GFDL). Logixoul 14:10, 8 September 2006 (CEST)

Or dual license, keep GFDL and use CC. (There was some discussion about this on Wikipedia iirc) CuCullin 19:31, 9 January 2007 (CET)
Dual license seems sanest to me as well. I'd also suggest just cc-sa. I'm not sure what we would expect/hope to win with attribution requirements? Especially since the authorship will be large... --Aseigo 00:44, 30 January 2007 (CET)
Maybe we should display the license(s) in the footer, something like "... | Legal | <here comes the license>" --Dhaumann 01:50, 3 February 2007 (CET)

[edit] Oxygen theme

I really like the Oxygen theme on this wiki, but might we reconsider the fixed width bit? It makes some of the pages (e.g. recent changes) not work as well, wrapping lines and making them difficult to read. --Axiom 20:50, 14 January 2007 (CET)

We have had this discussion over and over again but at the same time we got very positive feedback (e.g. on the kde-www mailing list). Changing the layout is very unlikely. I agree that due to our use of subpages the urls get long and a bit unreadable, but that's hardly a reason to change the layout of all *kde.org pages. --Dhaumann 23:49, 14 January 2007 (CET)
You can configure which skin is used in your preferences. A "Full width Oxygen" skin would be nice. --Argonel 04:44, 18 January 2007 (CET)

[edit] Something wrong with the CAPTCHAs

Every time I make an edit, it says I am trying to add a url, even when I am not. Perhaps I will get better a simple math, but they are slightly annoying. --Axiom 19:51, 21 January 2007 (CET)

Ping danimo about this issue. I had the same problem even after I registered. He had to nudge my account properly to make it work. --Aseigo 00:44, 30 January 2007 (CET)

[edit] Link at the top of the page

In the Oxygen style, the link "KDE TechBase" at the top points to the main page. Maybe the KDE logo left to it should also be a link. -- 129.143.4.66 09:27, 22 February 2008 (CET)

[edit] Nedit will not display on KDE 4.1

The following error message is displayed:

nedit: the current locale is utf8 (en_US.UTF-8)
nedit: changed locale to non-utf8 (en_US)

X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist)

 Major opcode of failed request:  45 (X_OpenFont)
 Serial number of failed request:  26
 Current serial number in output stream:  27

[edit] Link To UserBase

I'd suggest a link to userbase.kde.org as we're hearing from users who accidentally stumble onto techbase by mistake and get very confused. I'd suggest a wording like "KDE TechBase is a resource for Developers, for User documentation please see UserBase" positioned in a prominent above the first Develop logo.

[edit] KDE4.4.1(FC12) Service Discovery always uses .local as domain?

Hi Techbase,

Dumb question here, I can't get anything that relies on service discovery to work. This is because the domain is always somemachine.local and not the correct domain.

The computer is setup correctly and can forward and reverse look itself up. The DHCP server seems OK too.

Is there somewhere in KDE44 that I need to set the localdomain to change it from .local?

Service Discovery is working and has correctly identified the computers and the services in dolphin but adds .local to their names. Likewise the remote desktop stuff finds all the computers, but it also adds .local to the names. This makes me think that the Service Discovery always uses .local no matter what one does.

Thanks Phill.


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