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: Do you also mean platform.kde.org or reference.kde.org then? We are searching for both a readable name and a subdomain name. --[[User:Dhaumann|Dhaumann]] 16:56, 19 January 2007 (CET)
 
: Do you also mean platform.kde.org or reference.kde.org then? We are searching for both a readable name and a subdomain name. --[[User:Dhaumann|Dhaumann]] 16:56, 19 January 2007 (CET)
  
Hi! First time ever helping this community(I hope it's not the last time either)
 
  
The name should reflect the whole KDE project as (the way I see it) it tries to group everything KDE will be doing in the future to one wiki.
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'''Conquer KDE''': The name should reflect the whole KDE project as (the way I see it) it tries to group everything KDE will be doing in the future to one wiki.
  
My name: '''Conquer KDE''' or '''Konquer KDE''' depending if you like to replace the "C" by a "K".
 
  
 
As I read on the mailing list, we are trying to promote KDE to the OSV and to the system admins as well so the Slogan would be a nice way to name the wiki.--[[User:Imagine|Imagine]] 19:11, 19 January 2007 (CET)
 
As I read on the mailing list, we are trying to promote KDE to the OSV and to the system admins as well so the Slogan would be a nice way to name the wiki.--[[User:Imagine|Imagine]] 19:11, 19 January 2007 (CET)

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Name Suggestions

TechZone: I like this name for several reasons: They give a clue on the pages purpose, are not biased towards either devs or system integrators, and leave room to brand them (Question to Promo team: is that a good idea). Please note that we will redirect developer.kde.org to this domain, so people who are looking for this domain straight will still end up in the right place. The word Base in TechBase was criticized as being meaningless plus there is already a domain called devbase.com, and I want to stay out of tm issues. --Danimo 01:42, 19 January 2007 (CET)
I agree with these ideas. Regarding not biasing articles, that imho is a particularly important idea. While the major apps/suites (KOffice, Kontact, Kolab, Kopete, etc) are taken care of, there is an incredibly vast set of vertical markets untouched by KDE. These markets are not often discussed, yet make up a rather significant developer market. Examples would be software to manage a dental office, consulting firm, accounting firm, millwork companies, etc. Those working on this won't necessarily fall into a neat and clean category, so I'd consider this advantageous. --CuCullin 16:21, 19 January 2007 (CET)
TechBase: I like this name because we already call the site that elsewhere, so there's some continuity. It also is representative of the fact that this site (as i understand it) is meant to be the base of technical information for and about KDE on the interwebs. There is a company called TechBase International"KDE Technical Reference" which does things completely unrelated to KDE so maybe there's some tm issues, but I doubt it. Perhaps we might want to have a thing where the full name of the site is KDE Technical Base and we just call it TechBase for short --Mattr 02:22, 19 January 2007 (CET)
TechCenter: Similar to TechZone and TechBase. Maybe also similar to the qt-centre.
TechZone and TechBase : I feel that "tech[base|zone]"is a poor choice of name - it's a made up word and as such will age rapidly. It's a lowest common denominator, meaningless choice. The KDE project is bigger than that and would be better served by clean, functional terms such as "KDE Technical Reference", "KDE Technical Resource". If it has to be one word, "Learn" or "Platform". --Bille 23:18, 17 January 2007 (CET)
KDE Wiki: Wiki is now a noun just like a web page. Many of us are used to talking KDevelop wiki, SUSE wiki, and even below, Daniel used Kolab Wiki for Kolab. After all it's easy to remember and compatible with KISS principles... --jstaniek 16:10, 19 January 2007 (CET)
The thing I don't like about this is that it is just a noun like "web page". This site has a purpose, and I think the name should promote that purpose - otherwise, there would be no limitation on any KDE content going on here. Users might add application manuals, or e.V. info could go on here, whatever. That would only create confusion imho. --CuCullin 16:21, 19 January 2007 (CET)
Isn't the KDE wiki wiki.kde.org? That's already taken. Besides, we still need a name on the right of the KDE logo. "KDE Technical Reference" or similar titles are better than "KDE wiki". --Dhaumann 16:56, 19 January 2007 (CET)
I thought the old wiki.kde.org, now redundant (look at its TOC), is pretty much a history now when the new developernew wiki appeared, and as Mediawiki not only contains predictable hyperlinks and good interwiki and templates support, but its engine is far superior to the old one and constantly improved.

At least I consider moving all of my content out of it elsewhere. There's no day when I did not have problems with its tikiwiki's configuration, html layout and speed.

Application manuals? The old wiki.kde.org does not contain this kind of stuff, so history shows it's not a problem. Every larger KDE apps can host its own wiki, as we know in case of KOffice, Kexi, KDevelop, KDEWebDev family, etc. So Wiki is still my favourite term.

Regarding "KDE Technical Reference", it sounds a bit serious. There's similar very popular (100x more according to google) term: "Knowledge Base". Personally I have no problem with having wiki.kde.org (because it's as short as possible) and "Knowledge Base" title. --jstaniek 18:54, 19 January 2007 (CET)
Part of that, imho, is that wiki.kde.org (and TikiWiki) isn't as friendly as MediaWiki. Perhaps it should be wiki.kde.org, and simply have a nice listing somewhere on this site discussing what does and does not belong on here, just to direct content that may be more appropriate elsewhere. Personally, I like a more descriptive name because I think it separates this wiki from others. --CuCullin 19:49, 19 January 2007 (CET)
Do you also mean platform.kde.org or reference.kde.org then? We are searching for both a readable name and a subdomain name. --Dhaumann 16:56, 19 January 2007 (CET)


Conquer KDE: The name should reflect the whole KDE project as (the way I see it) it tries to group everything KDE will be doing in the future to one wiki.


As I read on the mailing list, we are trying to promote KDE to the OSV and to the system admins as well so the Slogan would be a nice way to name the wiki.--Imagine 19:11, 19 January 2007 (CET)

Thoughts on the Scope of This Wiki

Thoughts on the Target Audiences

Perhaps someone could clarify what is meant by "system administrators". At the extreme this term could apply to everyone from those with root on their local desktop install to people managing a network of thousands of PCs. I suspect the first of these includes the vast majority of KDE users. I assume this is not what is intended as this is a separate site to wiki.kde.org. -- TheoSpears
We're talking about people that administer a multitude of PCs, probably they are doing this professionally most of the time. We want to provide resources for them (howtos, scripts, pittfalls and workarounds). The wiki also gives us the unique chance that they can contribute their knowledge back (works fine e.g. on the Kolab Wiki. --Danimo 02:12, 19 January 2007 (CET)
Also, do we need to put this up on this site? The question being, does Sys Admin information belong? Or should it remain at http://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin/ ? --CuCullin 18:22, 19 January 2007 (CET)
This is also a place where sys admins can find out more about the whole KDE community. This Wiki should be more like the very first place for anyone who wants to know what is KDE. Screenshot, announcement, the best apps(amarok, k3b, koffice, konqueror, etc.), so that the user will WANT to try this out.--Imagine 19:16, 19 January 2007 (CET)
With such an international audience, presumably we need to think about how the name carries around the world. I know that this can sink any discussion with concerns from every country, but I wonder how well (for example) 'zone' and 'base' are understood in this context, particularly since both have more than one meaning in English. Tomchance 08:24, 19 January 2007 (CET)

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