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		<title>Milliams: Standard Shortcuts moved to Projects/Usability/HIG Questions/Standard Shortcuts: We use subdirectories in techbase.</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/Standard_Shortcuts&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Standard Shortcuts&quot;&gt;Standard Shortcuts&lt;/a&gt; moved to &lt;a href=&quot;/Projects/Usability/HIG_Questions/Standard_Shortcuts&quot; title=&quot;Projects/Usability/HIG Questions/Standard Shortcuts&quot;&gt;Projects/Usability/HIG Questions/Standard Shortcuts&lt;/a&gt;: We use subdirectories in techbase.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Dukat at 12:35, 2 May 2008</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is just a starting point, there might be inconsistencies. Feel free to add your comments.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is just a starting point, there might be inconsistencies. Feel free to add your comments.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Tampakrap: New page: I believe the [http://wiki.openusability.org/guidelines/index.php/Appendices:Keyboard_Shortcuts KDE Standard Shortcuts ] are by far from perfect and have several consistency problems. A lo...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: I believe the [http://wiki.openusability.org/guidelines/index.php/Appendices:Keyboard_Shortcuts KDE Standard Shortcuts ] are by far from perfect and have several consistency problems. A lo...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I believe the [http://wiki.openusability.org/guidelines/index.php/Appendices:Keyboard_Shortcuts KDE Standard Shortcuts ] are by far from perfect and have several consistency problems. A lot of these problems mostly due to be legacy problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'll list here some thought to start a discussion - I haven't thought it out completely by myself.&lt;br /&gt;
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The bisggest problem I see is the inconsitent usage of the modifier keys - there's no clear vision here&lt;br /&gt;
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* Nearly all modern keyboards have four modifier keys (SHIFT, CTRL, ALT, SYSTEM (SYSTEM is not defined: Win key on PC, Apple Key on Mac, Meta key on other) - so let's start use it!&lt;br /&gt;
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* Currently (aka KDE 3), do modifiers have a clear context meaning? By far not! Currently it looks something like this&lt;br /&gt;
** SHIFT changes case in Input fields (good) modifies some other modifier keys, to change its meaning like Save / Save As -&amp;gt; CTRL-S / SHIFT-CTRL-S, (good), but can be also used as a general shortcut key without any relation (New Text Document in Krusader -&amp;gt; SHIFT-F4) (bad)&lt;br /&gt;
** CTRL is supposed to be the standard shortcut key within applications, like CTRL-P, CTRL-S, etc - this is done quite well most of the time in KDE (good), however, a lot of System shortcuts (i.e. shortcuts with global scope) are also used with CTRL, like CTRL-Fx for Desktop Switching. Even better, some other are used in combination with ALT, like CTRL-ALT-left, again for Desktop switching.&lt;br /&gt;
** ALT is what? I seems to be used as the unversal do-all... Initially, its usage was to define Mouse-less control, so ALT-F would open the file menu. However, ALT is now used as general application shortcuts (Kruader Disk Usage -&amp;gt; ALT-D), Global navigation (ALT-TAB for application switching, yes I know this is legacy, or ALF-F1 for the main menu), ...&lt;br /&gt;
** SYSTEM is largely unused, and if used, sometimes in more than strage locations (sorry about the Krusader reference, but I use it that often -&amp;gt; List sort by name - WIN+1 ????????), maybe also a lot in Global Shortcuts&lt;br /&gt;
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So, I propose a consistent scheme, something like this&lt;br /&gt;
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* Use the System key! If there are still (some older) keyboards that don't have it, it can normally easily be mapped to another key (maybe to CAPS-LOCK, which is useless anyway). Or have an Escape key, somethig like CTRL-ALT-ESC = Win. But use this key (and consistently)&lt;br /&gt;
* SHIFT is only used to change another modifier, and not a shortcut modifier by itself&lt;br /&gt;
* The System key is used for global scope only (That's why it's called system key)!, So switch between applications-&amp;gt; SYS-TAB. Change Desktop: SYS+Fx, or SYS-left. Task Menu -&amp;gt; SYS-ESC. Something in this direction.&lt;br /&gt;
* SYS-CTRL combinations are for Global Shortcuts only.  So, e.g. SYS-CTRL-V could be the Klipper clipboard menu, or used for quicklaunching applications (SYS-CTRL-C to lauch a Console)&lt;br /&gt;
* CTRL is used solely for application shortcuts. No Global Shortcuts. maybe, CTRL-ALT would be ok, to have more options.&lt;br /&gt;
* ALT is solely used for keyboard navigation. No dedicated shortcuts start with ALT.&lt;br /&gt;
* What about F-keys. Have to think about&lt;br /&gt;
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With this, it would be immediately clear, that when I press a CTRL or ALT key, the effect would only be for the current application, while the SYS key is to control the whole user environment.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is just a starting point, there might be inconsistencies. Feel free to add your comments.&lt;br /&gt;
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