This page is about the upcoming Akonadi Meeting in October 2009.
Date: October 16th (Friday) - October 18th (Sunday)
Location / Travel Information
Office
KDAB
Adalbertstrasse 7/8
10999 Berlin
Germany
Phone: +49-30-5213254-70
Getting there from the hotel: takes about 15 minutes to walk, just follow the others, most have been here already ;-)
Hotel -> Office map
Getting there directly: Take the subway line U8 to "Kottbusser Tor".
Subway and rail map of Berlin
Hotel
Hotel Ibis Berlin City Ost
An der Schillingbrucke 2
10243 Berlin
Germany
Phone: (+49)30/257600
Fax : (+49)30/25760333
Easiest way to reach the hotel is by taking a train to Ostbahnhof (it's just across the street from the station). If your train doesn't stop there, take the S-Bahn from Hauptbahnhof, any east-bound line will do.
From TXL take the bus labeld 'TXL' to Hauptbahnhof or Alexanderplatz and switch to the S-Bahn there, any east-bound train will do.
In both cases you'll need a single 'AB' Ticket, which can be purchased on ticket machines and costs 2.10€.
Attendees
Non-locals, please add yourself, your travel details and accommodation needs to the following table.
| Name
|
Travel
|
Arrival
|
Departure
|
Accommodation needed
|
| Tobias König
|
train
|
16th, around 16:00
|
18th, around 17:30
|
yes
|
| Thomas McGuire
|
train
|
14th, around 17:00
|
18th, around 15:00
|
yes
|
| Tom Albers
|
train
|
16th, around 16:00
|
18th
|
yes
|
| Dmitry Ivanov
|
plane
|
16th, around 12:00
|
18th, around 15:00
|
no
|
| Andras Mantia
|
plane
|
14th, 17:05 TXL
|
19th, morning
|
yes
|
| Sebastian Trueg
|
train
|
16th afternoon
|
18th, ~ 18:00
|
yes (prefer not to share a room and will pay myself)
|
| Martin Koller
|
plane
|
16th around 12:30
|
18th, ~ 18:00
|
yes
|
| Sascha Peilicke
|
train
|
16th
|
20th
|
no
|
| Kevin Ottens
|
plane
|
11th
|
18th
|
yes
|
| Will Stephenson
|
drive
|
16th pm
|
18th
|
no
|
| Brad Hards
|
train in, flight out
|
16th around 13:30
|
19th, 11:05 TXL
|
yes
|
Locals present anyway:
- Bertjan Broeksema
- Frank Osterfeld
- Steve Kelly
- Till Adam
- Volker Krause
Agenda
Please collect stuff you want to do/discuss here.
- We have quite some new public API which needs to be reviewed, in the following libraries:
- Mailtransport [Diff]
- MessageViewer
- KMime [Diff]
- Akonadi Core [Diff]
- Akonadi Contact
- Akonadi KMime
- Kontact Interface
- Application porting status and planning, data and settings migration:
- KMail
- KOrganizer
- Akregator
- KDE PIM module organization
- Fix apps/runtime split again
- Nepomuk integration
- Fix the usage of non-Fast resources in the feeder agents
- Fix the feeders to behave according to Sebastian's email, and document the correct behavior somewhere
- Avoid ontology duplication, move them to kdelibs or soprano maybe?
- Extensions
- Free / busy management
- Mail Handling / Rules (Sieve, etc)
- StandardActionManager redesign (to support multiple views and extensibility)
- Do PIM applications still need to be KUniqueApplications?
Friday
- 18:00 Porting status and planning, module organization etc.
- 22:00 API review Akonadi Core library
Saturday
- 10:00 API review libakonadi and mailtransport
- 13:00 Nepomuk integration
- 15:30 API review Akonadi contact library
- StandardActionMananger redesign
Sunday
Meeting Notes
Akonadi/Nepomuk/Search and the future
Attending: Volker, Steve, Sebastian Trueg, Will Stephenson, Kevin Ervin
- Discussed future of desktop PIM and applications which are context or project specific rather than transport specific. Ie, beyond the concepts of "one application handles my email, another handles my contacts, another handles my notes." Instead these things should be grouped and available in applications which present them by project/task or person.
- Should be able to clear completed tasks by taking action on them. For any task, there may be multiple action paths to complete before the task is "complete", eg "The cat just threw up. Clean up the mess. Take the cat to the vet". Two action paths to handle the sick cat.
- Communicating with contacts independently of the transport mechanism in an application which can show history of communication with the person. Also, be able to configure notifications such as "Notify me the next time this person is online using the message 'Talk to Alice about the server backups'"
- Merging of contacts from multiple resources.
- Tricky because some resources have read-only access.
- Some resources rewrite fields, which could mean bugs like having to perform a merge operation again and again.
- Could be sensible to link Akonadi contacts to PIMO::Person objects in Nepomuk.
- Considering the implementation of how tags should be represented in PIM apps.
- Showing "All available tags from Nepomuk with linked items in the collections" would not scale because people could have thousands of, eg, emails, but only several would be relevant and contain tagged emails. It could be more sensible to configure individual simple searched such as "show me emails tagged with 'giraffe'" and use searches instead of explicitly using the tag resource.
- Nepomuk triples can be queried in interesting unrestricted and versatile ways. predicates can be variables and can have placeholders.
- Discussed the ideas brought out in Zeitgeist and how it can relate to Nepomuk and hooked into KIO.
- How can PIM relate to plasma activities, for example?
- Possible that PIM applications should not directly respond to changes in plasma activity, but plasma activity should map in some way to one or more 'PIMO::Project', and therefore change the most easily acceptible data related to the project.
- Storing search index of encrypted emails in a second, encrypted rdf store.
- Virtuoso has some useful stuff to make this possible, but it is preferable to create a model in the Soprano interface instead.
- Synching two Nepomuk stores.
- Possible to use a resource that represents remote nepomuk objects as akonadi Items and feed them into the local index.
- Soprano needs to get some more api for that.
- Separate but related is accessing a remote Akonadi server over ssh for example.
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